Let’s have a chat @Naeema looks like you tent proposal is ready to rock and roll.
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Hello hello @ola_o and @JamesBaker 
Thank you so much for reaching out 
I’m feeling grateful and inspired as we take the next steps toward bringing the 2R Forum: Weaving the Cultural Fabric tent into being.
@ola_o I’d love to connect on what’s next, especially around getting the tent info into the Oasis Tents category and listed on the website. I’m always available via WhatsApp if that’s easiest for you, otherwise I’ll keep an eye on DMs here.
Let me know what works best!
@Naeema I don’t have your Whatsapp #, but I have dm’ed you with next action steps.
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So following on from our ‘weaving’ meeting at the last Oasis call where we I think agreed on the need for a more pluralistic space here on the forum- I have a simple suggestion that I think could start us off in the right direction.
Right now we have a ‘General’ category which is described as for ‘posts that don’t fall into any existing category’.
This a subtly negative categorisation - it suggests that ideally posts should fall into one of the existing categories, and this is the net that catches the inferior posts.
How about instead we turn this into a positive. We could rename this something like ‘Other’ with a description “Not everything has to have a clear category. Feel free to use this category for things that don’t easily fit elsewhere”.
I’d also suggest we have a new top-level category to encourage people to be especially creative. We could call this something like ‘Garden’ or ‘Liminal’, with a description something like:
“Go wild. Let a thousand flowers bloom. Cross the threshold. Be creative. Start a thread for people to share poetry they’ve writen, or a thread for intimate sharing about insight experiences, or anything else that you think should exist.”
We could eventually have subcategories for some of these things, this is just a starting idea.
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Thank you @JonahW for these wonderful ideas! Renaming “General” to “Other” with a more positive description makes perfect sense, and I love the notion of a top-level “Garden” (or “Liminal”) space to let creativity bloom.
The discussions and feedback we received were so timely and alive and I really enjoyed holding the space for it. I’m also drafting a summary of our Weaving Tent meeting to post on the forum so attendees can comment, newcomers can catch up, and we maintain full transparency on the updates we’re applying. I’ll share that shortly!
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@JonahW I’ve shared a detailed update on what unfolded during our recent Oasis call in the tent post here: 2R Forum Oasis Tent: Weaving the Cultural Fabric - #2 by Naeema. It would be wonderful if you could add your suggestions there, your insights would enrich the conversation and invite others to engage and respond as well.
Optimise for Resonance!!! 
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How about Recursive Resonance Realization? If Recursive Relevance Realization is small world sampling for left-brain processing, maybe Recursive Resonance Realization is pushing left-brain artifacts back out in practice to see how they land? It’s one thing to have notes on composition paper. It’s another thing to hear it all played before an audience.
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Love this, @RobertBunge Recursive Resonance Realization has a beautiful poetic and embodied quality to it. There’s something deeply alive in that idea of cycling insight back into the world and listening for what resonates. Like weaving sound into signal, theory into practice, self into shared meaning. Your framing always manages to touch both the mind and the soul deeply appreciated.
Speaking of resonance, I’d love to invite you to join the Forum Tent today during the Oasis call. We’ll be gathering there to explore how we’re collectively weaving the cultural fabric of this space and your voice, especially as one of the most thoughtful and consistent contributors, would be a real gift in shaping that.
Also taking a moment to warmly welcome @Gen again so glad you’re here!
If you haven’t yet, you can check out the Tent post in the forum it’s where we’re grounding our ongoing reflections and discussions on the emerging culture here 
[link to the Tent post]
Would love to see you both there tonight and continue this exploration together 
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Let me unpack “recursive resonance” …
It’s about communication. Apart from the metaphysics of all matter (including our physical selves) being quantum vibrations, human-to-human communications is very much carried on waveforms and follows call-response patterns. At a high level, message “resonance” is related to pragmatic questions like “how did it land?”, “what did it mean for you?”, “what was the impact?” and so on.
Vervaeke’s 3R’s are all about equipping our personal selves for wise action. My proposed tweak complements that by also proposing that we also communicate whatever we currently think “wisdom” is and validate that with a variety of external collaborators. Any response from that validation exercise should feed back into the personal 3Rs process and so on. It’s all very cyclical. And very emergent and autopoeitic, IMO.
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I need a weird category. I’d call it Red World but that metaphor would have to get around more first. With all the intellectual posts it doesn’t feel like there is a space for dreams and creativity. Being able to see a category for this kind of content would be a positive step to encouraging more art and spirituality.
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Hey @SilentShaun
I’ve actually been thinking about this for a while now, how to create a space on the forum that holds the kind of intuitive, spiritual, and artistic sensemaking. I spent some time doing research and brainstorming names that would not only reflect that energy, but also stay true to the ethos of the 2R forum, something that resonates both intellectually and aesthetically, while being grounded in the kind of epistemological and ontological work many of us are exploring.
Here are three options that I think could hold that space well:
1. Enactive Sensemaking
- Rooted in the work of Varela and Thompson
- Recognized within cognitive science and philosophy of mind
- Leaves room for spirituality and art as lived, embodied cognition
2. The Imaginal Real
- Draws from Henry Corbin’s metaphysics
- Mythopoetic, but with philosophical depth
- Invites symbolic, spiritual, and artistic expression
3. Participatory Ontology
- Based on the work of Jorge Ferrer and relational metaphysics
- Centers spirituality, co-creation, and epistemic humility
- Strongly aligned with metamodern and integrative approaches
If all on board @JonahW @rufuspollock we could put together a quick poll and share it on the WhatsApp group to get a sense of what name resonates most with the wider group.
Let me know what you think.
P.S. Also let’s think of tags and subcategories
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I like the phrase you used in your intro - Artistic Sensemaking
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I’m not saying we should use it exactly, but I like your phrase ‘weird category’. I worry a bit that all these options are themselves quite intellectual, and people may feel that they restrict the range of acceptable content. So I’d still go for something like ‘Weird’ or ‘Garden’ and clarify further in the description along the lines I suggested earlier. ‘Artistic sense-making’ would go great as part of that longer description.
I’m not sure who proposed the “Weird” category or in what spirit it was intended, but I’d love to better understand the context. While I personally celebrate weirdness and geekiness, I do wonder if the label might unintentionally suggest exclusion or marginalization. Update: @SilentShaun what do you think? Just figured out you used the term weird 
If we’re not creating the poll, my preference would be for a category like “The Imaginal Real” it strikes the right balance and feels inviting to the kind of contributors or “gardeners” we hope to attract. I’m happy to work on crafting a compelling description for it.
Novel, innovative, provocative, emergent, imagined, seminal, catalytic, surprising, unexpected, random, stochastic, in-breaking, crossing-though, coalescing, incipient, adumbrating, surfacing, shattering, sparking, incendiary, landing, striving, expanding, up-welling, emanating, flashing, thundering, rumbling, portentous, foreshadowing, arriving, manifesting.
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Hmm yes good point, I guess it would be about making very clear in the category description that it’s the ‘weird is good’ sense 
What I’m after is something that’s very broad and inclusive, so that ideally no one comes away feeling ‘there’s something interesting that I think would make sense here but the categories don’t seem set up for that’ - which is a sentiment I remember from one of the forum discussions.
How about “pre-categorical”? Might be the wrong word, but maybe a good idea. The incubation chamber for categories not quite yet all the way here …
@Naeema there was an element of self deprecation with “weird”. I’m comfortable with it but others might not be.
A poll might be the best way forward. We are drowning in options here. If we want to find something that resonates then let’s test it. It would also start engagement and promote the category. Pick one from each persons suggestions and leave it to the masses.
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