# \#discussion **URL:** https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/tag/discussion/11.md [Latest](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/tags.md) --- ## [Marco Rubio on Western Civilization](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/marco-rubio-on-western-civilization/904)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [October 26, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/marco-rubio-on-western-civilization/904 "2026-10-26T13:32:29Z")
Posting a link here to the full text of a recent Marco Rubio speech in Greece. My response will be below. I would encourage others to consider Rubio’s arguments and weigh their own responses. Secretary of State Marco Ru… --- ## [Research Group October 23 - Body-Mind Integration and the Metacrisis](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-october-23-body-mind-integration-and-the-metacrisis/913)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [October 25, 2026, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-october-23-body-mind-integration-and-the-metacrisis/913 "2026-10-25T10:49:13Z")
Join Research Group regular Margeret Heath for a systems-oriented consideration of how personal and collective body-mind practices can brace us to address the metacrisis. --- ## [Research Group Friday October 30 - Spirit Tech](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-friday-october-30-spirit-tech/914)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 24, 2026, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-friday-october-30-spirit-tech/914 "2026-10-24T17:28:23Z")
​Most of our technology is designed to capture attention. A growing field asks whether it could cultivate presence, connection and wonder instead. In this session, Dr. Omer Tzuk (physicist, consciousness researcher at th… --- ## [Kantian Coffeehouse Conversation](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/kantian-coffeehouse-conversation/888)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [October 22, 2026, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/kantian-coffeehouse-conversation/888 "2026-10-22T10:43:04Z")
Lately metatheory has been springing up in local coffeehouses all over my native town (Tacoma, WA). Tacoma is like Seattle’s more working-class cousin with an ongoing brand image problem (The Real Story Behind Tacoma’s … --- ## [Integral Multiculturalism](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/integral-multiculturalism/910)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 19, 2026, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/integral-multiculturalism/910 "2026-10-19T20:08:52Z")
In a recent post in another thread, I suggested that neither integral nor metamodern theory have taken civilizational pluralism as seriously as they ought to. This very recent essay - by Leonardo Wilson - makes a good st… --- ## [Is Elon Musk Right about the Future of AI?](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/is-elon-musk-right-about-the-future-of-ai/898)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [October 7, 2026, 10:43am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/is-elon-musk-right-about-the-future-of-ai/898 "2026-10-07T10:43:48Z")
In recent WhatsApp thread, there was a lot of discussion about Elon Musk and AI. Some of that is reposted here. “In many discourses I feel that people still have the same assumptions about the world and the reality that… --- ## [Reseach Group: Virtue Ethics and the Metacrisis - Oct. 2](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/reseach-group-virtue-ethics-and-the-metacrisis-oct-2/895)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [October 2, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/reseach-group-virtue-ethics-and-the-metacrisis-oct-2/895 "2026-10-02T17:10:22Z")
@JonahW will present on Virtue Ethics as a way of framing discussions of global crises, including both how to understand the ‘Metacrisis’, and a closer look at the specific case of AI risk. The format will be a short ta… --- ## [Principles of Cooperative Development](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/principles-of-cooperative-development/891)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 13\ **Last updated:** [October 2, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/principles-of-cooperative-development/891 "2026-10-02T13:26:40Z")
Today I went to regional symposium on cooperative development. It was mostly practical management information about how to run various types of businesses. But one thing that struck me was the seven principles of coopera… --- ## [Research Group: The Next Economy - Sept. 25](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-the-next-economy-sept-25/893)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 23, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-the-next-economy-sept-25/893 "2026-09-23T16:07:23Z")
Our research call on Friday September 25, 2026 will feature Nymrod Glassman. The topic is “The Next Economy.” Full description on the Luma link below. --- ## [Research Group: Work-Belonging Balance](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-work-belonging-balance/889)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [September 18, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/research-group-work-belonging-balance/889 "2026-09-18T12:45:07Z")
This topic was proposed for an upcoming research call. But post here as well. What do you think? --- ## [The Story of this Forum: Pt 1](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/the-story-of-this-forum-pt-1/773)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 27\ **Last updated:** [September 13, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/the-story-of-this-forum-pt-1/773 "2026-09-13T12:33:14Z")
This forum has had its ups and downs. We’ve had some interesting discussions, and occasionally there’s a big round of mud wrestling that may be frustrating for participants and observers (though possibly entertaining as… --- ## [My (Our!) Next Book Project](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/my-our-next-book-project/755)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 47\ **Last updated:** [September 5, 2026, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/my-our-next-book-project/755 "2026-09-05T12:14:24Z")
Yesterday I taught my final college course. Coincidentally, I also submitted final revisions for a forthcoming textbook. Today I’ll ride the train to Seattle for a retirement event. My office at school was cleaned out la… --- ## [Where Does the Thinking Go? - Research Group Meeting Friday September 4, 2026](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/where-does-the-thinking-go-research-group-meeting-friday-september-4-2026/883)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [September 4, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/where-does-the-thinking-go-research-group-meeting-friday-september-4-2026/883 "2026-09-04T20:48:39Z")
Trees of change, forum discussions, and getting Second Renaissance to constantly evolve its vision. ​Any movement for civilizational renewal needs its discourse to compound: hypotheses about how renewal happens needs to … --- ## [Problems and Possible Responses Within Our Influence](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/problems-and-possible-responses-within-our-influence/878)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [August 31, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/problems-and-possible-responses-within-our-influence/878 "2026-08-31T21:36:43Z")
An Experiment in Collective Sensemaking Over the years that I have been involved with movements that might broadly be described as metamodern, my impression has been that considerably more attention is given to understan… --- ## [Is UBI the Way to Go?](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/is-ubi-the-way-to-go/877)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [August 27, 2026, 10:23am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/is-ubi-the-way-to-go/877 "2026-08-27T10:23:13Z")
The video below provoked a long discussion in a WhatsApp thread lately. What do you think? Is UBI a good idea or not? --- ## [Christopher Nolan's Odyssey](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/christopher-nolans-odyssey/871)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [August 10, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/christopher-nolans-odyssey/871 "2026-08-10T15:22:19Z")
Lately in the WhatsApp channel, there has been a lot of lively interest in the critical reception of Christopher Nolan’s recent Odyssey film. This post is mean to provide a convenient summary of that long-running thread. … --- ## [Second Renaissance, as if it were a School](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/second-renaissance-as-if-it-were-a-school/819)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 17\ **Last updated:** [July 26, 2026, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/second-renaissance-as-if-it-were-a-school/819 "2026-07-26T08:08:09Z")
Yesterday in the research group, we got to using “school” metaphors to discuss various 2R structures and activities. 2R/LifeItself is far more than a conventional academic study group, but it does strike me that understa… --- ## [You Can't Step in the Same Rant Twice!](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/you-cant-step-in-the-same-rant-twice/857)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [July 25, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/you-cant-step-in-the-same-rant-twice/857 "2026-07-25T17:17:18Z")
Today in what was supposed to be a dry, procedural organizational call with @rufuspollock I broke into a rant so epic Rufus nudged me to reproduce it. I mumbled semi-sincere assent to that idea, then went out on my daily… --- ## [The Pattern of History: Why a New Renaissance is Coming](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/the-pattern-of-history-why-a-new-renaissance-is-coming/855)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [July 20, 2026, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/the-pattern-of-history-why-a-new-renaissance-is-coming/855 "2026-07-20T10:36:02Z")
From @dvdjsph in another channel: “A more esoteric take on the Second Renaissance from one of my favorite YouTubers:” --- ## [2R Goal Tree: What is Expected?](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/2r-goal-tree-what-is-expected/746)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [July 12, 2026, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/2r-goal-tree-what-is-expected/746 "2026-07-12T14:43:29Z")
This will be the first in a series of posts concerning the Logical Thinking Process and how it can help us organize our research efforts towards a goal: Co-initiate a Second Renaissance: a conscious transformation of fo… --- ## [Find the Others](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/find-the-others/826)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [July 10, 2026, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/find-the-others/826 "2026-07-10T16:53:56Z")
I’ve heard this phrase in a couple of conversations lately and I decided to make it more precise by pulling together some material by Terence McKenna, Douglas Rushkoff, and others, and generating some Gherkin. The bold … --- ## [Social History and Condition of Emancipation](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/social-history-and-condition-of-emancipation/825)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [July 10, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/social-history-and-condition-of-emancipation/825 "2026-07-10T14:22:29Z")
This is a fork off of another thread in which the question at issue involves whether or not radical sociology has been or can be effective in empowering workers. Short version - does the Marxian tradition have any gas le… --- ## [Proposed Subcircle on Coops and Related Alternative Economics](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/proposed-subcircle-on-coops-and-related-alternative-economics/824)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [July 9, 2026, 10:31am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/proposed-subcircle-on-coops-and-related-alternative-economics/824 "2026-07-09T10:31:35Z")
There seems to be a lot of interest in the topic of coops and related topics such as social capital and alternative currency. I’d suggest a multi-week research subcircle on these themes from the upcoming fall season (sev… --- ## [Second Renaissance Research Subgroup: What is the Second Renaissance](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/second-renaissance-research-subgroup-what-is-the-second-renaissance/667)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 23\ **Last updated:** [July 3, 2026, 12:12pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/second-renaissance-research-subgroup-what-is-the-second-renaissance/667 "2026-07-03T12:12:49Z")
At a recent Research call, there was a call from proposals for research proposal for dedicated subgroups. The proposal below is in response to this call. In summary, it proposes: UPDATE: 2026-05-15 this was unanimously … --- ## [MetaChakra Change Model](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/metachakra-change-model/776)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 24\ **Last updated:** [July 3, 2026, 10:42am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/metachakra-change-model/776 "2026-07-03T10:42:21Z")
Nymrod Glassman is a relatively new Life Itself/Second Renaissance contributor. Nymrod and I share a taste for relatively complex (but practical) social change models. As a point of entry to Nymrod’s work, see the links … --- ## [The Story of this Forum: Pt 2](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/the-story-of-this-forum-pt-2/774)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [July 1, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/the-story-of-this-forum-pt-2/774 "2026-07-01T14:17:36Z")
Continued from 6. Participant contribution matrix This is based only on public textual evidence sampled from visible threads. Participant Main concerns and social role Strongest contributions Weaknesses / failure… --- ## [Making Sense of Wickedness](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/making-sense-of-wickedness/784)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [June 30, 2026, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/making-sense-of-wickedness/784 "2026-06-30T09:34:26Z")
Michael P. Schlaile, coauthor of the paper linked below, has graciously volunteered to present at an upcoming Research call. (Date TBD). The paper is offered here by way of pre-reading. Here some other links to Michael’… --- ## [Stag Hunt and Shared Vision](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/stag-hunt-and-shared-vision/777)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [June 27, 2026, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/stag-hunt-and-shared-vision/777 "2026-06-27T14:43:27Z")
As requested by @rufuspollock I’m capturing some of the WhatsApp discussion around the Stag Hunt theme here. Includes some familiar names, as well as a newcomer (welcome @Nymrod !) The discussion began with a reframing… --- ## [Rufus and Brendan on How the West Become Modern](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/rufus-and-brendan-on-how-the-west-become-modern/771)
**Author:** [@RobertBunge](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/RobertBunge)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [June 25, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/rufus-and-brendan-on-how-the-west-become-modern/771 "2026-06-25T20:41:42Z")
@rufuspollock recently appeared on a Podcast with Brendan Graham Dempsey. Lots of juicy historical questions in here! Rather that reacting directly, I prefer to set the table for a more extended discussion with some refe… --- ## [What would it take to solve the metacrisis?](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/what-would-it-take-to-solve-the-metacrisis/770)
**Author:** [@dvdjsph](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/u/dvdjsph)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [June 21, 2026, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/t/what-would-it-take-to-solve-the-metacrisis/770 "2026-06-21T13:16:29Z")
I’d like to conduct an open, informal study with the goal of better understanding and cataloguing approaches to solving the metacrisis. I’m not expecting this goal to be achieved by this study. I just think it would be … [Next page](https://forum.secondrenaissance.net/tag/discussion/11.md?match_all_tags=true&page=1&tags%5B%5D=discussion)