Hello @dvdjsph Thank you for directing me here.
As I mentioned I think your pattern and the one I was trying to describe are pointing in a similar direction I think there are many words and concepts labels for this.
This zettel from my zettelkasten comes to my mind for example:
# The Ancients Decoded Reality
- #tags: #rumi #everything_is_connected #history #perception
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADYdypHZb2A
- 1. you are not separate; you never were, never could be
- 2. fear is illusion; love is truth
- 3. the mind is not a camera; it is a projector
- 4. the enemy is not the world; the enemy is the ego
- 5. everything is connected
@rufuspollock probably remembers this:
Inner Change - Cultural Change - System Change
In a funny twist this loop is of course also related to @Mars - upgrade post.
It is very difficult to talk about these things in text but I will try. In mars post, I mention the “peaceful world change prompt”
Let me quote Marvin Minsky: you dont’ understand something if you understand it only in one way. So I will try to explain these things using multiple examples.
So this loop IS also the peaceful world change prompt in that it represents an attempt for improving the situation in a peaceful way but for many perspectives. Youval Noha Harari speaks in his book spapiens, the last few sentences/paragraphs: What do we want - to want.
It is a kind of Meta(computer science) thinking that is very difficult to do individually and gets even more complicated when you expand this principle to larger groups of people. Also because it touches on things like identity.
Daniel Schmachten berger had a time where he used the term: omni consideration. I tried to find sources for that for now I can only point to an example like this:
https://shows.pippa.io/futurefossils/episodes/51
or this:
If you find better sources please share!
Good so we have now created a loop in which still fits to the model: individual → groups of people (small , < dunbars number?) → largest groups of people( countries, continents?)
There are also multiple effects working here. For example we might say:
What if all the AI resources in the world tried to ask that question:
How to do a peaceful world change prompt?
There can of course not be a single answer, we still would need to start from change points of the individual. One of the Questions that then arrises:
How can we go from individual to group?
Many communities on earth still can do this, but “atomized” individuals in urban centers largely have lost this abilities for reasons.
In my [Social Media - Digital Developmental Spaces] and The Story of Predictive History 1(Social Media - Digital Developmental Spaces - #2 by curious_reader)
Post I hint to interesting examples of how people tried to apply - the loop -
Predictive History failed, maybe , but also there are interesting ways to infer from it.
Chat as minimum viable - anything- is a interesting resource to read here( see Social media post)
I also think that the Atproto Community tries - more or less unconsciously - to create such a positive loop. As I described I see semble as one of the very important projects.
And this gives us hints to another property of the loop pattern:
Doing it openly and digital can help create resonance and cohesion.
I also mentioned the akasha weco video. in that Video laurence just described what I here but into my words, with weco they tried to create a space in which people could create their own online spaces from which they eventually would go to offlince spaces and experiments in governance models.
Governance and Technology , its a tricky thing but resources like this could help: https://plurality.net/
roomy and semble for now just work on data and access,
weco already had the idea that with resonnace people could experiment with governance. Maybe there are already projects like this in the AtProto space.
The Glassbead game an DreamTalk play an important role here for creating resonance.
I hope this makes some sense to you.
BTW this article goes into similar directions We May Be Entering A Second Axial Age - NOEMA