The Praeternatural and the New Epistemic Deal. This is my proposal for making 2R a reality

I would like to advance the discussion, and so I am going to do something I have never done before, which is to explain in public what this is really all about. This post isn’t supposed to be an argument. I can’t prove any of it. But it might just help people to understand what I’ve been trying to say. All sorts of things are missing from this description, so please do not jump to conclusions – do not insert your own definitions and assumptions into my system and then use them to attack it. There’s been too much of that already. Instead, please ask questions and I will do my best to answer them.

How do I know these things if I can’t prove them? The answer is that I have direct experience of what other people call “the supernatural”. And I am not just talking about synchronicity. I am talking about a wide-ranging reconfiguration of the timeline I belong to. In Jungian terminology synchronistic processes are going on around us all the time – we just usually either don’t notice them, or we are so familiar with them that we don’t question what they are. But Jung’s terminology is unhelpful in that “synchronicity” means both individual experiences of meaningful coincidences and a whole category of causality (or something that looks like causality but isn’t, depending on your definition). I have gone from being a hardcore Dawkinsian materialist-naturalist to experiencing the most profound “supernatural” phenomena imaginable, and I did it in the space of about two months. I then quit a career in software engineering to study philosophy in an attempt to understand what the **** had happened me, and spent the subsequent 16 years trying to put it down in a book so that people who still think in the way I used to might be able to understand it.

We need to retire the term “supernatural”.

Naturalism (or “metaphysical naturalism”) is a metaphysical view that everything happening in reality can be reduced to (or explained in terms of) the laws of nature (including laws we are yet to discover). Naturalism is logically entailed by materialism (all materialists are naturalists) but the reverse is not true (some naturalists aren’t materialists, eg Nagel). If the material world is the only thing that exists, then there is no theoretical or conceptual space for anything else that could affect it (an agent of free will, for example, or God) so naturalism is logically entailed. Naturalism differs from determinism in that it can accommodate objective randomness – the future does not have to be fully determined, but anything not determined must be random (really random in every case, not just apparently so or only in some cases).

You might think that supernaturalism could just be defined as “not Naturalism” – in other words something else is going on – not everything can be reduced the laws of nature. And until the discovery of quantum theory this worked perfectly well, but QM changes everything. The different interpretations of QM are different ways of explaining how we get from deterministic laws which describe a multiverse, to the experience of a single timeline. The Many Worlds Interpretation does this by saying that all possible outcomes occur in diverging timelines, and we just don’t notice all the ones we don’t end up in. If we reject MWI – and assume there is only one timeline (or perhaps only a few) – then we have to explain what the apparent randomness is – we have to explain what decides which of the physically possible timelines actually manifests. One possibility is that it is objectively random – that nothing makes this decision – that God plays dice with the universe. Another is that there are hidden deterministic processes (hidden variable theories) that decide the outcome. These are the three options most people consider, and all three of them are wrong. What actually determines which outcome manifests is the entire realm of causality Jung called Synchronicity. I call it the praeternatural.

Instead of “supernatural”, I define “praeternatural” to refer to “supernatural” phenomena which are compatible with the laws of physics, but not reducible to them. They do not breach physical law, but they aren’t explained by physical law either. They are probabilistic – they involve things happening which are exceptionally improbable but physically entirely possible. I define “hypernatural” to refer to supernatural phenomena which breach physical laws – things which aren’t possible no matter how much the quantum dice are loaded. Examples include the feeding of the 5000, and Young Earth Creationism. These things do not happen in our reality. It is not just that I haven’t experienced them, but that what I have experienced makes not the slightest bit of sense if the hypernatural is real. If the hypernatural was real, solving our problems would be easy.

Along with synchronicity, praeternatural phenomena include free will (which everybody experiences all the time), karma, and the teleological evolution of conscious organisms Thomas Nagel proposes in Mind and Cosmos but leaves entirely unexplained. These aren’t the only ones, but they’ll do for starters.

This is the heart of spirituality. It’s what it is all about. Praeternatural phenomena exist as a means for Reality to try to develop itself. They are what decides which of the physically possible MWI timelines we collectively end up in, and they are directly associated with spirituality because Reality is seeking a spiritual solution to the problems humanity is facing. That is why spiritually advanced people experience a lot of synchronicity – what is happening is that Reality is prioritising their will over that others who are less useful for this decision process.

For me, 2R is how we incorporate this into a theory which is capable of uniting enough of humanity to manifest the paradigm shift we’re all working towards. This has to include people like Thomas Nagel, because he’s carving out a place for naturalists in the new paradigm. They don’t know it yet, but he’s their leader. He understands what all of the materialists and physicalists don’t, and he’s trying to both break the news to them that materialism is false, and blaze a trail to a new naturalistic theory of everything. He cannot succeed, because he’s looking for teleological laws to explain not only teleology in evolution but potentially other forms of natural teleological process. No such laws exist. The praeternatural is not determined by laws. It is determined by will, by closeness to Truth, and by passion. It will never be made scientific. These are pearls; they are not for swine.

My conclusion is we need a new epistemological agreement to sort out not just this but all of our other ideological problems at the same time – those caused by growth-based economics and postmodern antirealism. We need a “peace treaty” which can unite as many of the ideas within the current “2R ecosystem” which are already compatible with, or can be made compatible with, a new epistemological system. Naturalists like Nagel are never going to believe what I’ve just written, and there’s no way we should expect them to.

My book is both an argument that we need a New Epistemic Deal, and a specific proposal that we might start from. It is offered not as a finished product, but as a basic idea of what the way forwards needs to look like. I want to provoke an entirely new sort of debate – I am not trying to enforce the conclusion of that debate. We need input from all sorts of people. I am just trying to get the ball rolling. PROPERLY rolling.

Here is the whole NED:

1: Ecocivilisation is our shared destiny and guiding goal.

Ecocivilisation represents a vision of a society that harmonises human activity with ecological principles. This is not a utopian ideal but a necessity dictated by the realities of ecosystems and evolution. The claim that ecocivilisation is our destiny is pre-political, transcending specific ideologies or systems. The precise social, political, and economic structures of ecocivilisation are not part of this definition, but the core premise is clear: civilisation must work ecologically to endure.

This realisation, however, is insufficient on its own to inspire a mass movement. The challenge lies in how we navigate the path forward. Choosing a “least bad” route demands careful thought and collaboration, as well as a willingness to embrace complexity. Yet, despite the uncertainties and debates about how to proceed, we can and must agree on this: ecocivilisation is our ultimate goal – a commitment to creating a world where humanity thrives within the limits and laws of nature.

2: Consciousness is real.

Consciousness – our individual interface with reality – is the one thing each of us can be absolutely certain exists. It is through consciousness that we perceive existence and recognise that anything exists at all. As such, consciousness must serve as the starting point for exploring what exists beyond our subjective experience and for discerning the boundaries of what we know and what we don’t.

3: Epistemic Structural Realism is true.

Scientific knowledge tends towards truth. We acknowledge that there is such a thing as an objective reality, external to human minds, about which science provides structural knowledge that is reliable, albeit with certain qualifications. We reject the idea that all scientific knowledge is merely provisional, or as subjective as non-scientific forms of knowledge. We affirm the epistemic privilege of science.

4: Both materialism and physicalism should be rejected.

Materialism cannot account for consciousness. Physicalism either suffers from the same problem, or it implies things that most physicalists reject, in which case it is not much use as a piece of terminology. Both materialism and physicalism restrict our models of reality in such a way that they are never going to be able to satisfactorily account for everything we have justification for believing exists.

5: The existence of praeternatural phenomena is consistent with science and reason, but apart from the unique case of psychegenesis, there is no scientific or rational justification for believing in it/them either. The only possible justification for belief is subjective lived experience.

6: We cannot expect people to believe things (any things) based solely on other people’s subjective lived experiences. There will always be skeptics about any alleged praeternatural phenomena (possibly psychegenesis excepted) and their right to skepticism must be respected.

Principles seven and eight are closely related, but sufficiently different to warrant the inclusion of both.

7: There can be no morality if we deny reality.

If there actually is an objective reality, and we can actually know things about it, then if we start our moral reasoning with anything other than reality then we’re in engaged in fake morality – we will be arguing about what would be morally right and wrong in some ideal reality rather than the real one that we have to figure out how to share. And if the people we are having moral disagreements with are actually dealing with reality, while we are not, then they are engaged with real morality and we are claiming moral high ground we have no right to claim. Attempting to put morality before reality should be rejected as virtue signalling.

8: Science, including ecology, must take epistemic privilege over economics, politics and everything else which purports to be about objective reality.

Principle seven is specifically about morality. Principle eight is about everything else that matters – it is about practical reasoning as well as moral reasoning. It is a statement that the whole of science, including the whole of ecology, the limits to growth and the reality of ecological overshoot, must be acknowledged before serious discussion starts about anything at all. It should be considered immoral to come to any negotiating table demanding concessions from others before you are willing to accept reality. Growth-based economics and politics is not just dangerous nonsense but, for anybody who understands that that is exactly what it is, engaging with it without persistently challenging its false assumptions is an immoral act.

I would like to think that it could not be clearer why these last two principles are necessary. This is a proposal for a new epistemological framework to facilitate the construction of a western ecocivilisation. That process is going to require all of us, at every level of society, to face up to some of the most practically and morally difficult realities that humans have ever faced or will ever face. How can we do that if some of us don’t agree that there even is any such thing as reality and/or demand that either our practical reasoning or our moral reasoning begin from somewhere else?

Edited to add…

Why UTOK is an “Endo-Natural” Worldview | by Gregg Henriques | Unified Theory of Knowledge | Medium

UTOK is concerned with getting the natural into social science into subjective psyche picture of the (endo-)natural world correct. The division between endo- versus exo- allows UTOK to not get bogged down into potentially distracting debates about the world outside the natural world. By making this division, we can simply state that if you are interested in the confederation of aliens or in life after death or the higher dimensions that result in parapsychological phenomena, you can go explore Exo-studies with Sean or other similar endeavors that are concerned with such entities. And if you are interested in a second Enlightenment that scientifically and philosophically gets the right relationship in the natural world between matter and mind and subjective and scientific knowing, then come join the UTOK Community.

Can you see now why I think UTOK is not just completely wrong but a huge, damaging distraction? Gregg Henriques thinks “the paranormal” involves aliens, “higher dimensions” and the afterlife – bullshit, in other words. The “division” he’s making relegates the praeternatural to an irrelevance, because Henriques doesn’t know that it is real. He doesn’t know synchronicity exists, he doesn’t understand why Nagel has been forced to conclude that evolution is teleological, he doesn’t know what free will is or how it works, and he’s got no idea how quantum mechanics is connected to consciousness. That’s for fools who want to explore Exo-studies with Sean, not for deep thinkers like him who have got it all worked out. “Exo-studies” means “stuff from another reality” – stuff that is “out there”. The praeternatural is very much part of this reality. It’s right in here.

The more I learn about UTOK, the less I like about it. I don’t question Gregg Henriques motives. The problem is he’s an old-paradigm naturalist who knows the old paradigm is broken but doesn’t understand what the new one needs to look like. As a result, his proposal for the new paradigm doesn’t work, because it misses all of the key insights needed to sustain 2R. Nagel is a new-paradigm naturalist, or at least he is pointing people in the right direction.

Let it be shown and known - she knows how to make 'em. OMBAOWOW :smiley:

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There is an awful lot of refutation going on here for a non-argument. I’d be much more interested in how your timeline got reconfigured. It’s fine to see the world differently.

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Are you referring to what I am saying about UTOK?

Why do you think I am saying that, Robert? What do you think my motive is?

I’d be much more interested in how your timeline got reconfigured.

There is a limit to how much of that I can talk about in public. If I told you the whole story, you wouldn’t believe it. It is very important to me that people take me seriously, rather than thinking I’m either joking, lying or crazy. I am trying to do my part to make 2R happen, which will not happen if people think I’m another David Icke. You can’t just explain this stuff to people who aren’t open to understanding it. (And I am not talking about you here – this is a public space).

We do, however, need to talk about the problems with UTOK, because those problems are very real.

I am also happy to talk about the NED, given that that is a proposal to make 2R happen. But as I hope you can see, in order to make it happen people need to be able to understand why UTOK is part of the problem rather than part of the solution. How can we have an alleged “Universal Theory of Knowledge” which equates genuine spirituality with belief in aliens? I don’t believe in aliens – in fact part of what I am saying is that the cosmology I am describing implies that the Earth is the only place in the cosmos where conscious life exists – I am rejecting the idea that “life must be abundant because [insert question-begging argument here]” for being based on a false notion that the Earth isn’t special and that the cosmos is not consciousness-centric. The exact opposite of what Henriques is suggesting.

Either I am deeply delusional and/or a pathological, narcissistic liar, or UTOK is seriously wrong because its originator is entirely oblivious to the praeternatural. Which do you think it is?

You cannot have a “unified theory of knowledge” which entirely overlooks all genuine spiritual knowledge. The truth is that I am struggling to understand how UTOK ever got its foot in the door of 2R. I don’t understand why other people can’t see exactly the same problem that I can see, especially after it has been pointed out. Gregg Henriques doesn’t know that the Occult is real, which is a show-stopping problem if you’re proposing a new epistemology for the world. It’s pre-Kantian, and not in a good way.

Robert,

The unfolding of reality occurs in two forms. The first is the normal “efficient” physical causality that determines how the wave function evolves (ie “the laws of physics”)(this is equivalent to “Yang” in Taoism – the expansive phase of the unfolding of reality). The second is praeternatual phenomena of various sorts which determine which of the physically possible futures actually manifests. It determines when and how the wave function collapses (this is equivalent to Yin – the contractive phase).

In everyday situations, the most important of these is human free will. Right now, you are being presented with one of those important free will decisions. This is happening because we have a shared goal of making 2R happen, but we are discussing two conflicting epistemological systems (mine, and UTOK). Either I am right, or Henriques is right, but both of us cannot be right and the conflict isn’t going to go away. But this is how it has to be – we cannot make 2R happen by just allowing everything to be included, even if it is hopelessly wrong. We have to decide what is right and what is wrong, and we have to act on those decisions, and that is how the future is created. The world is in the state it is in partly because far too many people have made far too many poor free will decisions in the past. Fixing this world means improving humanity’s performance in this respect. We need to spiritually evolve. The way to make this happen is to present people with much more important free will decisions, and do whatever we can to equip them to make good ones.

Let me explain a bit about how the Praeternatural works. Belief systems, including religions but also including cosmologies-epistemologies like scientific materialism and UTOK, act like “languages”. Reality will communicate to you in whatever your own “language” is – that is why Christian mystics experience Christian-oriented phenomena, Buddhists experience Buddhist-oriented phenomena, and why Tarot cards work for new agers and the I Ching works for Taoists. I am assuming (please do tell me if I am wrong) that you are a Christian. If so, and you want to know whether I’m for real or not, then ask your God. It doesn’t matter whether you do it out loud (I find that is best, preferably while walking on some windswept hilltop…) or just in your head, but it must be done with conviction – you have to believe in it. Ask your God whether I am for real, or whether synchronicity is real, or whether you should be committed to defending UTOK, or whatever other question you really need to know the answer to. Ask, and the answer will come.

Then make your free will decision. This is how we co-create reality.

EDIT: since I posted that, I have been exploring UTOK’s website. And it is very clearly a business. Not only is it hopelessly wrong, but it is in the same category of “thing” as scientology – part religion, part self-help system, but mostly designed to generate income for its founder. Consult your conscience, please. And maybe recall the story in the gospels about Jesus and the moneychangers.

I’d like to offer support and encouragement here. The explanation of the praeternatural in particularly is very much in line with how I have made sense of the world for decades. On a surface level, one could say that the “real” miracles are the miracles of what appears to be pure chance or luck. Meaningful coincidence. Effectively for ever (in my adult life) I have held together a view that the scientific method is (on the whole!) a great way to discover meaningless reality, and that religion is all about meaning and not about science. Like you, Geoff, I don’t think many people see things that way.

What I’m not so sure about in your narrative is what we could call your “theory of change”. Just as I’m not clear how Rufus’s narrative hangs together to result in the “Second Renaissance” (while being quite happy with the objectives), also I’m not clear how your narrative hangs together. I’d love to do some ontological commoning on this … take your narrative; unpack and document the belief system underlying it; and then detail the ontology of terms in which the belief system is formulated. Then, it is my view, we are more likely to have productive dialogue resulting in common ontological ground, and thence, maybe working towards a core common belief system.

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I’d like to offer support and encouragement here. The explanation of the praeternatural in particularly is very much in line with how I have made sense of the world for decades. On a surface level, one could say that the “real” miracles are the miracles of what appears to be pure chance or luck. Meaningful coincidence. Effectively for ever (in my adult life) I have held together a view that the scientific method is (on the whole!) a great way to discover meaningless reality, and that religion is all about meaning and not about science. Like you, Geoff, I don’t think many people see things that way.

Your support and encouragement is very welcome. I was feeling a little lonely there, and I’ve been feeling like that for too long now.

The NED is epistemological – it is a device for enabling the debates that need to happen in order to forge this Second Renaissance. Its purpose is to set epistemological ground rules for the construction of the new paradigm.

I have a book coming out about this, and the book isn’t just about the NED. It also contains an imaginary future timeline whereby society actually does change, and also the first three chapters of an imaginary book which combines spirituality and science in a way never done before – a book from the future called The Western Book of the Ecoapocalypse.

I’d love to do some ontological commoning on this … take your narrative; unpack and document the belief system underlying it; and then detail the ontology of terms in which the belief system is formulated. Then, it is my view, we are more likely to have productive dialogue resulting in common ontological ground, and thence, maybe working towards a core common belief system.

That is exactly what my forthcoming book is about. It is called The Real Paths to Ecocivilisation. Subtitle From collapse to coherence: integrating science, spirituality and sustainability in the West.

If you PM me your email address I can send you the first 35 pages. I can also explain more here if you like. Just ask away.

The Western Book of the Eco-apocalypse (chapters 0|∞ to 2)

0|∞

Nothing never was, and never will be. There was no beginning of things, and there will be no end. The Ground of all Being is not nothing, and not infinity. It neither exists nor doesn’t exist. It is indivisible and indestructible. It is the Ultimate Paradox.

  1. Psychegenesis

1:1 The Big Bang

The only beginning we can speak of is the beginning of our own cosmos, and we call it the Big Bang.

1:2 The Primordial superposition

At first, and for most of its history, there were no conscious beings in the cosmos. We call it noumenal or potential: the cosmos as it is in itself. By definition the noumenal cosmos can only be instantiated upon 0/∞, though the question of whether there could be any additional structural levels between 0/∞ and the noumenal cosmos must remain unaddressed for now. Because there were no observers, we call this period the many worlds phase of cosmic evolution. All possible outcomes of quantum events were being realised across different branches of reality, but none of these branches were being “chosen” or “experienced” by a conscious observer. The remainder of this section describes only what happened in the branch that was eventually chosen.

1:3 Inflation – The First Great Mystery…

1:13 The Ediacaran

Around 540 million years ago life increased in complexity again. The first multi-cellular organisms were simple – sponges and other immobile blobs, stalked fronds and floating jellyfish-like things. We call them the “Ediacaran fauna”, and we aren’t even sure which branch of life they belonged to – perhaps they were proto-animals, or perhaps they belonged to some other branch of life that subsequently died out. Either way, they didn’t do much – the Ediacaran oceans were a tranquil sort of place.

1:14 The Cambrian Explosion

Around 540 million years ago the equilibrium was punctuated once more. In a relatively short space of time, primitive forms of all of the branches of animal life we know today appeared, along with countless others that were destined to be failed evolutionary experiments. Disjunction Age scientists could reach no agreement about the cause of this unique event in evolutionary history.

Proposed explanations included:

  • A steep rise in oxygen (another one)
  • Anoxia (lack of oxygen) on the Ediacaran sea floor forcing life to move upwards and change
  • The appearance of ozone in the upper atmosphere allowing life to move on to land.
  • The ending of “snowball Earth” conditions enabling new evolutionary pathways
  • An increase in calcium content in seawater enabling new body designs
  • Mass-extinction of the Ediacaran fauna leaving a blank canvas for new life to evolve.
  • An increase in size and diversity of planktonic animals.
  • A sudden increase in symbiotic relationships, allowing more complex organisms to thrive and diversify.
  • The movement of deep-sea vents changing ocean chemistry and driving life to diversify around new habitats
  • Early forms of marine life developing defensive or offensive chemical secretions, triggering an evolutionary arms race
  • A radical alteration in the Earth’s magnetic field, causing increased radiation exposure, which accelerated mutation rates
  • An intense surge in solar radiation from a series of solar flares, impacting Earth’s atmosphere and sparking mutations
  • Starbursts in the Milky Way galaxy
  • Aliens deliberately introducing new genetic material to kickstart complex life on Earth
  • Earth’s position in the solar system briefly resonating with planetary and lunar orbits, causing unusual tides and environmental shifts
  • Microbes developed collective intelligence or coordination, leading to novel ways of constructing multicellular organisms
  • Intrinsic genomic re-organisation and developmental patterning (i.e. a new sort of “genetic technology”)
  • A key evolutionary innovation like vision or better brainpower
  • New forms of mobility and therefore a step change in predator-prey relationships
  • A complexity threshold.

Disjunction Age scientists did not know what caused the Cambrian Explosion. Most of their guesses were completely wrong, and those that did tilt in the right direction were too vague and missed the key insight. Yes, there was a revolutionary evolutionary innovation, and though it involved both vision and better brainpower, neither of those options quite nails it. Yes, it involved a new form of mobility and a major step change in predator-prey relationships, but that’s not the elephant in the room either…

The cosmology is based on two recent books, both of which are trying to bring consciousness into the scientific view of reality from which it has always been missing. These books are Mind and Cosmos by Thomas Nagel and Mindful Universe by Henry Stapp. The first is about evolution, the second is about quantum mechanics, both are about neuroscience.

If you go to this map, off the top of my head, the parts of “Integral Island” you want to kick out of 2R are essentially the two chunks called “Wisdom” and “Metamodern”. Vervaeke and UTOK are effectively joined at the hip, as is Brendan Graham Dempsey. They all made the same methodological distinction Hanzi Freinacht did, which is to bracket off the “woo” and to focus on naturalistic emergence. It’s a really common worldview in these circles.

Why bracket off the “woo”? Because Wilberian Integral, which preceded anything metamodern, was a bit too open to corrupt gurus and New Age absurdities. The main problem at issue for Vervaeke, Henriques, Dempsey, and many others in their circle (there are many, many others) is to account for mind, spirit, meaning, etc. in ways consistent with a story of evolutionary emergence through natural complexity. The big debate in that world currently is whether said evolution is telelogical or not. (Jim Rutt says the telos is heat death of the universe; Dempsey is more open to some God principle).

Anyway, that’s all a large, established social circle with lots of regular conferences, people appearing on each other’s podcasts, thousands of pages of published literature, and a vastly interconnected online presence. If 2R must choose between that very influential social circle and your lone voice in the wilderness, I get the feeling your voice will be headed back to the wilderness soon enough.

None of that has much anything to do with my personal views about God, spirit, supernatural, praeternatural, or anything like that. I rather like Aurobindo and Gebser, and Thich Nhat Hahn’s dialogues with various Catholic figures, so I’m open to lots of other things beyond naturalistic evolution. However, to even have that discussion requires a certain amount of tact, discretion, flexibility, and many other social skills beyond claiming a personal vision of absolute truth.

It’s wrong. If we want 2R to work, then the mistake must be fixed. Some “woo” is very real. It can’t be left out, because it is the special sauce.

If 2R must choose between that very influential social circle and your lone voice in the wilderness, I get the feeling your voice will be headed back to the wilderness soon enough.

Consult your conscience. What rings true, Robert? What I am saying? Or what they are saying?

I’ve spent the last 16 years in the wilderness. I am not afraid of that. But I think you are wrong. I think the Truth will come out. I think it is time.

However, to even have that discussion requires a certain amount of tact, discretion, flexibility,

Do you think Jesus changed the world by having tact, discretion and flexibility? Or did he fearlessly defend what believed was right and true?

You cannot change the world by following the herd. Don’t think “all these people have decided on X. They are influential people. It makes sense to just accept what they are saying.” Do your own thinking.

Now and again I’m all for lone voices in the wilderness, if there seems to be a groupthink going down a path to relatively nowhere. On the other hand, I tend to prefer acknowledging allcomers for what they positively bring, and just leaving aside what is unfruitful. I tend to like the general feel of the Vervaeke-adjacent crowd (particularly McGilchrist who I was at school with), but have you seen Dempsey’s latest “Gospel”? Eeeuw!

As I have already hinted, my proposed way forward is methodologically under construction, and would very much like to gain experience from trial: “ontological commoning

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Iain McGilchrist would not disagree with anything I am saying. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a word come out of his mouth that isn’t completely compatible with my own belief system.

The reverse is true of Hanzi Freinacht.

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Yes, and I think that’s one of the reasons I have a positive feel about your belief system. Iain has an excellent background in science, and champions the importance of left-hemisphere thinking even while observing that it has become too dominant and needs rebalancing with the right hemisphere as “The Master”: left hemisphere should be “The Emissary”. (personally I think it might be helpful to redress another balance by saying “the Mistress” rather than “the Master”)

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Exactly. UTOK is basically pure left hemisphere.

I don’t mention McGilchrist in my book until the end of the last chapter. The whole book builds up to it.

My own path was heavily influenced by the work of Robert Anton Wilson, who also emphasised the importance of right hemisphere thinking to counterbalance left hemisphere dominance. It was Wilson’s book Prometheus Rising that cracked my old scientistic belief system wide open.

From chapter 8 of my book (“Metanoia, Part Two”)

Then another friend loaned me the book that really did prise open my closed mind, but only after it had thoroughly pissed me off first. The book is called Prometheus Rising (1983), written somebody I’d never heard of called Robert Anton Wilson. In it he describes his own version of Timothy Leary’s 8-circuit model of consciousness, which was also new to me, regardless of my familiarity with psychedelic drug culture. Circuit one he calls the “oral biosurvival circuit”, and this he tells us appeared with the first multicellular life forms. Circuit two is the “anal emotional territorial circuit”, which appeared during the Cambrian Explosion. Circuit three is the “time-binding semantic circuit”. This was my circuit – the circuit that does the rational thinking. Since I considered this the highest form of cognition, I was wondering what on earth all the other circuits were supposed to be for. I was over-dependent on my brain’s left hemisphere, says Wilson, and paying insufficient attention to the right. I was a third circuit rationalist robot. Circuit four didn’t seem too theoretically problematic – the “moral socio-sexual circuit” was maybe not my strongest, and I would never have placed it higher than circuit three, but that was a quibble. It was at circuit five that everything started to go horribly wrong – “The holistic neurosomatic circuit”. This part of Prometheus Rising begins with a badly copied illustration of a card from Aleister Crowley’s Thoth tarot deck, and from that point onwards the book consists of a combination serious woo and speculation about the future, most of which has turned out to be wrong – Wilson was hopelessly optimistic. One concept that keeps cropping up is synchronicity. The higher up the circuits you go, according to Wilson, the more synchronicity starts to show itself. That was enough for me. I hurled the book across my bedroom and it lay in a corner, in a pile of junk, for several weeks. I can date this to January 26th 2002 , because I kept the copy of that week’s New Scientist magazine, which landed on my doormat the next day. On the cover is a large digitised zero, with a surgical implement removing pieces of it, and the headline Smaller and Smaller: Curious Things Happen When You Slice Up Nothing.

Shortly after that I escaped from materialism, thanks in part to the writings of Thomas Nagel and David Chalmers, and then curious things started happening. I kept experiencing weird co-incidences, most of which were connected to my ongoing investigation into the nature of reality. At first I ignored this, because I still had no place in my map of reality to put it, but the more I ignored it, the more glaringly obvious the synchronicities became. Ignoring them seemed to intensify them, and they were leading me in a direction I did not want to go. This was both fascinating and frightening, and I think it was only because of my residual nihilism that fear did not take over. If you’ve already given up on your own future, then even experiences that threaten your basic understanding of reality aren’t that frightening. I was already fully prepared to use suicide as an emergency escape route, so what was the worst that could happen to me? Being sent to hell?

Eventually I picked Wilson’s book up again and this time I finished it. The whole system is a Whole System. I am not going to go into the details of what happened next, though I was posting about it online at the time. I was already known as a vocal skeptic, and now I was telling other people in the skeptical community about an ever-increasing intensity of serious woo happening to me. You can imagine the response.

Then it got even weirder. Richard Dawkins set up his own forum, on the Richard Dawkins Foundation website. Or rather, his left hand man Josh Timonen set it up; Dawkins himself almost never posted on that board. Again I was involved from the start, though by this point I had switched sides. I was an ex-materialist who now believed synchronicity was real, based on direct personal experience. However, unlike most believers in woo I had a deep and comprehensive understanding of the materialistic worldview I had been evangelising for the previous 20 years, and that made me difficult to debate. Josh had picked a couple of likely candidates as moderators, but they did not fare well in their encounters with me, and they abused their power in an attempt to silence me. Seeing this happen, Josh decided to relieve them of their moderator status and asked me if I would like to take over from him as the site administrator, because he thought I had shown the deepest understanding of both sides of the argument. I agreed, Josh made me the administrator, and then he departed, never to be seen again. I received no further instructions and no oversight from above after that – I had total control of that forum and there was no active higher authority for any of the users to appeal to. The only hard evidence I can provide to support any of this story is a well-worn RDF t-shirt sent to me as a thankyou for my services, but I am guessing all of the online stuff is filed away in a backup somewhere. My username was usually UndercoverElephant (a cartoon character from 1977).

I’d just like to interject here, what is “woo” and what isn’t? How do you define “woo”, @RobertBunge ? I don’t know of any rational distinction — though I may have missed something of course. I’m all for clarity about corrupt gurus and other abuses, when it becomes really clear, but less clear about what counts as an “absurdity”. Seems to me that what counts as absurd is heavily dependent on your belief system, including assumptions, culture, etc., much of which can be hidden until brought to awareness.

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That is basically too difficult to explain in one post. I’d have to post the whole of chapter 3 of my book. I had to define it very carefully. But here is the relevant section specifically on “woo” (which is out of context any may not make sense)

Metaphysical terminology (section two – opposing terms)

With the exception of libertarian free will (which was easier to explain in section one, even though it actually belongs here) the terms defined above are broadly inter-related – they all tend to fall on one side of a dichotomy. Section two covers the other side.

Woo

Woo (or woo-woo) is the word that comes closest to referring to everything on the other side. It is derived from the sound effects that accompanied flying saucers in 1950s science fiction films. The term “woo” does not belong in the new paradigm. Firstly it is too vague, so each skeptic has their own idea of what it means, so it can mean whatever anybody wants it to mean in any particular situation. Secondly it is dismissive and derogatory, which combined with the vagueness amounts to “What I personally think is laughably stupid and/or weird”. We are going to need more precision than that. I only use the word “woo” in reference to the old paradigm.

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I don’t. I just take note that others use the concept to bracket off doctrines and practices they consider false, superficial, sketchy, exploitative, or otherwise distracting from productive spiritual endeavor.

I’ve been in and out of New Age bookshops for over 40 years now. There is both something attractive and suspicious about that culture. Sorting the real from the fake in that world takes some doing. I’ve met spirit mediums, participated in a variety of prayer circles, and listened to many hours of presentations by teachers who speak matter-of-factly about out of body experiences, astral travel, experiences beyond ordinary time and space, and so on. One of my takeaways from all that is “be careful what you wish for”. Not all spirits are friendly helpful spirits (so I am told). My prayer experience has been that being overly specific in prayer requests and visualizations may not be the wisest approach. I lately tend more in the “Thy will be done” direction.

From a purely naturalistic point of view, I chalk these general explorations up to intuition. The intuitive mind processes signals in ways rational thought can’t fathom. McGilchrist explains all this in great depth, but I’ve been practicing intuitively for decades before even hearing of McGilchrist. More listening, less jumping to conclusions seems a generally advisable approach.

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Yeah. I can’t get through it. I like the book below better. The general idea is to get under the evident inconsistencies in the different gospel accounts and to uncover a Jesus with a consistent personality (consistent with the Sermon on the Mount, anyway). Of course, any such endeavor will be subject to the preferences and passions of the particular editor.

I like Brendan and we’ve interacted quite a bit. He has an evangelical background, lost that faith (while in seminary), and now is reinventing religion on his own terms. I don’t find that especially persuasive. To me, the spiritual needs to be quite a bit bigger than I am. The invention part (which I now accept as inevitable in our current global milieu) is mostly about how to tidy up the many sources of inspiration that come rushing in from all directions. But I see the notion of personal religion as something of an oxymoron. I’m more in favor of personal grasp of the many religions that are already out there.

I can feel another “both-and” view arising in me. Could we perhaps appreciate (I was going to say “value”, but that doesn’t seem exactly right) both the influential social circle – because it provides the opportunity for outreach – and the lone voices in the wilderness – because more than never, these turn out to have the seeds of the next wave, the next opening of the Overton window? I’m also feeling slightly 3-horizon-ish, if you know what I mean.

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Simon, (reposted because I accidentally deleted it the first time).

If we want to actually go anywhere, then at some point the rubber has to meet the road. And there is no way to do that without defining the new paradigm in such a way that leaves the old paradigm definitively behind. Here is the beginning of the final chapter of my book:

[strikethrough]Chapter 12: We must act now or it will be too late![/strikethrough]
Chapter 12: We must deal with reality, or it will deal with us.

We must act now or it will be too late! I am so tired of hearing these words. It is how books about the eco-apocalypse have nearly always ended. What is the point in continuing to tell people that they must act now or it will be too late when almost nothing anybody can actually do will make a significant difference the overall trajectory or limit the long-term damage? To sound virtuous? To inflict psychological cruelty? Who is this “we” who should act? What can we do? How can we act?

“Act now or it will be too late” doesn’t work. Repeating it ad infinitum and expecting it to suddenly have a different effect is the proverbial definition of madness. I think it is time to replace this tired old chestnut with “We must deal with reality or it will deal with us” – a mantra that stands some chance of actually working. It makes sense at every level from the individual to the entire human race, and for each individual or group regardless of what anybody else is doing. Even if you live in a society which refuses to change, it is in your own interest to make decisions based on reality rather than delusion and fantasy. And it is also, on balance, in the interests of the whole of society for everybody to be dealing with reality. It’s a game-theoretical winner. “Act now or it will be too late” is a game-theoretical loser. Act now because nobody else is going to.

What would happen if we approached the ecological crisis with realism and acceptance rather than idealism and denial? What if we stopped focusing on global calls for change that rely on abstract unity, and instead concentrated on localised resilience, personal responsibility, and realistic expectations? This is not about saving the world in some grand, romantic sense. It is about dealing with the reality we actually face, understanding the boundaries within which we can act, and preparing ourselves for the storm that is actually coming. By focusing on what can be done within those boundaries we will maximise our collective impact. When enough people start dealing with reality on a personal and community level, larger systems can begin to shift.

Debunking the Fairytales: Growth, Realism, and Collapse

In chapter two I discussed the Metacrisis, and in the section called Ecocivilisation, China and the West I stopped talking about contemporary politics almost as soon as I began. I just wanted to speak plainly, but I feared that this would cause too many people to stop reading. In normal situations it is not possible to talk about overpopulation without risking an accusation of ecofascism, or being immediately diverted into a pointless discussion about whether or not the Earth really is overpopulated. Of course it is overpopulated. If we were to look at this objectively, like people in a mature ecocivilisation will, we’d ask ourselves what the optimum population might be, in terms of both ecological sustainability and the welfare of human beings.[footnote: But our culture doesn’t even permit us to use the term “optimum population”, which is why, in 2011, the Optimum Population Trust renamed itself “Population Matters”. ] By that time, both in my imaginary future and the real one, the carrying capacity of the Earth will have been drastically reduced, but let’s imagine we got our act together 50 years ago when the Club of Rome originally published The Limits to Growth. What might we have concluded the optimum population would be? My guess (there are no official figures) is that we would have concluded that the Earth was already overpopulated at that time and that we should be aiming to reduce it to the region of 1 to 2 billion. In other words, the Earth isn’t just a little bit overpopulated, but horrendously so. There are already at least four times as many humans there ought to be if we were getting civilisation right. I am not saying this because I hate humans – either generally or just “other groups”. The statement has nothing to do with any sort of political or religious belief, or my personal psychological condition. It is an educated guess based on ecological realism, and it is probably too optimistic.

Not dealing with reality has its advantages. It often works in the short term, and that that has usually been enough for most people is one of the main reasons we have ended up in this mess. Now those chickens are coming home to roost. There are also advantages for people whose situation leaves them disadvantaged if reality is acknowledged, and that is deeply controversial. One group’s decision to deal with reality will all too frequently have catastrophic consequences for other groups. There are going to be a lot of losers. People have been saying “we must act now or it will be too late” for half a century now, but the exact meaning has often been unclear. “We must act now or there are going to be several billion losers in a global struggle to survive” is a reasonable interpretation, I think. We did not act, and now it is too late. There is no way to soften this message. No way to spin it so that it doesn’t seem so bad. Reality is what it is, and now we are going to have to deal with it.

Pre-collapse politics isn’t completely irrelevant, of course. It is only the fear of losing power at the next election that keeps our politicians honest to the extent that they actually are. Whether the UK is governed by Labour or the Conservatives makes a real difference both to people’s lives and the future of the country. However, it is irrelevant with respect to the broader, deeper issues of the Metacrisis, which is exactly why we are heading towards collapse. In that sense, nothing has changed since I gave up on politics in 1989. All the mainstream political parties are committed to fantasy growth-based economics. Even the Green Party is unwilling to clearly commit to its reversal – at the time of writing the mealy mouthed official policy of the Green Party of England and Wales is that “growth should not be the default aim for governments.” I’d be willing to bet that most members of that party are fully aware that basing a national strategy on growth is ecologically insane, but there is no public commitment to this position. Insufficient people are willing to face the political consequences of actually speaking the truth, so the debate does not change. We are drowning in fairy stories.

To shift this dynamic, three myths must be exploded, and this must happen at their root sources. Growth-based economics can only be eradicated when economists find the courage to condemn it as the ecological insanity it has always been. Our politics can only progress beyond postmodern anti-realism when the social left rediscovers the indispensability of realism. Metaphysical materialism will only cease to be a dominant paradigm when the scientific community acknowledges its shortcomings and stops resisting the nascent paradigm shift.

We cannot make this paradigm shift happen and include materialists and old-paradigm-style naturalists in the new order. That is not how paradigm shifts work.

And the same applies to postmodernist leftists calling themselves metamodernists, and purveyors of growth-based economics calling themselves green.

“Both and” can’t include the old paradigm.